Fernleaf Sign To Go

The City took a closer look and agreed, the sign isn't bike friendly.

Take a last look, this sign will soon be gone.

This weekend’s Cycling Safety post on coronadelmartoday got some attention in Public Works. Newport Beach Senior Engineer Brad Sommers says:

“It’s a very unfriendly looking sign; it is not our intention to prohibit bicycles in the roadway.”

So the sign will come down, to be replaced by a more appropriate warning sign.

See the earlier post and the many comments.

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Frank Peters

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  1. I have added the following at Corona del Mar Today:

    Safety is paramount – for all rightful users of the road.

    If there is a hazard, the signs do not address it appropriately and cause other problems.

    1. The signs do not warn a cyclist of a hazard. They are not of the nature of a warning sign.

    2. The signs would likely be innocently dismissed – if even seen – by a cyclist because any cyclist would naturally confuse them for a “NO BICYCLE RIDING ON SIDEWALK” sign (because that is virtually the only sign regulating cycling a cyclist ever expects to see, as that is the extent state law allows a local authority to regulate cycling). Keep in mind that the City of Newport Beach has banned cycling on all of its sidewalks, except where expressly permitted, under section 12.56.030 of its Municipal Code, and where it is expressly permitted there are large green signs with white lettering advising that cycling is allowed on that sidewalk. (Those signs would be helpful here.)

    3. The signs give the impression – even though they are not enforceable by the Police Department – that a cyclist on Fernleaf Avenue is a lawbreaker. Keep in mind how powerful a message that is: even a Newport Beach Police Officer suggested Frank Peters was obliged to walk his bicycle on Fernleaf Avenue. That false impression gives a lot of “ammo” to motorists who think cyclists are “in their way” when they are on public roads.

    4. The signs also give the impression to the public that local authorities have it in their power to regulate cycling as a means to traffic solutions, and that cycling is a dispensable option on the roads those authorities are trusted to maintain for the benefit of all. Look at the above comments – and past comments by the same people – for an idea of the pervasiveness of that mistaken impression. It runs deep. It explains cavalier attitudes toward hazards like this: http://bikenewportbeach.org/?p=269.

    5. If there is a hazard, it should be dealt with appropriately. If motorists are driving so fast on Fernleaf Avenue (the speed limit is 15mph) they are running up behind cyclists, then they are not keeping a proper lookout and they are breaking the law: they may be speeding, and they are definitely following too closely. Both of those are violations of the California Vehicle Code. A speed camera would be a good idea. And if cyclists are going so fast downhill they are running past the STOP sign, ticket them too. But if the hill is so steep cyclists can’t stop, get rid of the STOP sign at the bottom of Fernleaf Avenue and add two STOP signs, north and south, on Bayside Drive. Motorists drive way too fast there anyway.

    Let the City of Newport Beach look at the issue and find a solution that doesn’t compromise anybody’s safety, rights or integrity.

  2. Joe F. writes:

    Funny, I ride up and down that hill five times a week. Of course I ignore it. Although I have had motorists hassle me when I am riding up the hill, some even pulling up alongside me and and tell me I have to walk my bike. I try not to pop off at them, although one time some insane woman in a large black Suburban managed to honk at me ferociously while she drove alongside me. I followed her and when she stopped I did give her a piece of my mind. The whole thing really sucked.

    Most everyone is really considerate and most reactions at seeing me pump up the hill are positive. Just a few bad apples out there. Not exactly a bicycle friendly place.

  3. Les M. writes:

    In my view there is no justification for that sign, the street is flat, sidewalk unobstructed, how many parked cars litter the streets? Looks like somebody on NB Council did a “favor” to get that sign posted. The hilly streets in Laguna might raise an arguement to ban cycling from our neighborhoods. Fortunately our Council has not yet banned them on those grounds. Riding on sidewalks here is a problem though and the city does have an ordenance to ban it. Like most supurfulous laws that one is also unenforceable!

  4. B.A. writes:

    Thanks for the info and comments about this sign Frank.
    Obviously the sign is an unofficial, illegal one with no jurisdictional standing. It would take someone receiving a violation citation and a court ruling to officially require the sign to be removed, or, the City Council to direct that it be removed. To save everyone needless aggravation I would rather just ignore it until one of these actions occurred. There are too many other projects that need our cooperative support and attention. The sign is divisive so why not just move on?

  5. Les, local authorities are in fact allowed to ban cycling on sidewalks. It is cycling on the roadway that cannot be banned.

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